Episode 9: Too Many Stars!  Too Many Galaxies!  How to choose what to look at?

The Vera C. Rubin Observatory, located high in the Andes in Chile, is expected to be operational near the end of 2023.  The Rubin’s wide-field reflecting telescope will scan the entire southern sky every few nights.  Our guest, Harvard Professor of Astronomy Edo Berger, is a leader in the Rubin Observatory’s work and will be our guide to what is intriguing in deep space, and how AI will help astronomers navigate this ocean of images.


Episode 8:  “STAT” AI Helps Stroke Specialists Speed Response

Strokes are one of the most frightening of maladies, striking as they do at the brain, the center of personhood.  In this episode of Mind the Gap we will be talking with the founder and leader of one of the leading stroke centers, Dr Stanley Tuhrim of the Mount Sinai Comprehensive Stroke Center in New York City.  Mount Sinai’s Stroke Centers have been leading adopters of powerful AI techniques, the first ever approved by the FDA for clinical application.


Episode 7: AI as Artist’s Assistant

In this episode of Mind the Gap we talk with the President of Harvey Mudd College, Dr. Maria Klawe, who has had a distinguished career as a theoretical computer scientist, scholar, and college administrator.  Dr. Klawe is also a gifted painter -- a watercolorist.  And has been painting for longer than she has been a computer scientist.  In this episode we explore with Dr Klawe her widely admired paintings and her use of technology to help her focus her artistic vision.


Episode 6: AI or Human - Which is the inventor?

As AI evolves to increasingly perform innovative tasks, the idea that something created by a machine that had previously been created by a human raises a number of complex issues, such as whether AI may be listed as an inventor on a patent.  The US Patent and Trademark Office, henceforward the USPTO, invited public comment in 2019 to gather information about the impact of AI technologies on intellectual property law and policy.

In this episode we are fortunate to have two members of the USPTO staff involved in the preparation of two reports resulting from their requests for comments. Our guests are: Judge Rama Elluru and Christian Hannon. Judge Elluru was an Administrative Patent Judge on the Patent Trial and Appeal Board at the USPTO. Christian Hannon is a patent attorney at the USPTO.


Episode 5: Can AI Uncover the Origins of the Biggest Black Holes?

In this episode of Mind the Gap: dialogs on AI we talk with Dr. Becky Smethurst, a research fellow at Christ Church College, Oxford University whose research concerns questions like, do galaxies and black holes evolve together?  And, what influence does a supermassive black hole have on matter near its event horizon and on the galaxy whose center it occupies?  We are particularly interested to ask her how astronomers are contemplating the use of AI to sort through and analyze the data.


Episode 4: The Story of How AI Reconstructed a Rembrandt Masterpiece is out and ready for listening.  In the early-eighteenth century, Rembrandt’s largest and most famous painting, The Night Watch, was cut down on all sides to fit on a wall in Amsterdam’s City Hall. The removed pieces were never recovered. In this episode of Mind the Gap, Rob Erdmann, Senior Scientist at Rijksmuseum and Professor at the Rijksmuseum and Professor at the University of Amsterdam, walks us through how museum scientists trained AI to successfully paint like Rembrandt to reconstruct the lost fragments of this masterpiece more than 300 years later.


Episode 3, The Future of AI in Lending Decisions is up and ready for listening!  The growing use of AI in credit decisions expands what is considered creditworthiness data and how it gets used.  To help us break down the challenges in AI’s use of high dimensionality data in the consumer loan context, we are fortunate to have as our guest a scholar qualified as a computer scientist, a lawyer, and an economist.  Professor Gillis earned a law degree from Hebrew University, clerked on the Israeli Supreme Court, earned a graduate law degree from Oxford University, and is now concurrently teaching at Columbia Law School and earning her doctorate in economics at Harvard University.


We are happy to announce the release of Episode 2, AI as Prediction Tool.  In this episode we talk with Professor Avi Goldfarb of the University of Toronto, one of the authors of the well-received book, "Prediction Machines," about how to understand Artificial Intelligence from the perspective of an economist.


We are excited to announce the launch of our podcast, “Mind the Gap: Dialogs on Artificial Intelligence.”  This is a podcast series featuring two national security lawyers Ama A. Adams and Roland L. Trope, and two computer scientists, Marc Donner and Charles Palmer, interviewing a series of practitioners and leaders in a wide range of fields, all using AI in their daily work.  Our podcast is produced with the generous support of the Business Law Section of the American Bar Association, which has our grateful thanks.


We hope you will join us as we work to refine, sharpen, and clarify the layperson’s understanding of what AI is, what it can do well, and what it cannot do well.  We will also explore how some of AI’s limitations are due to overambitious application or bad data.


Our first episode is up at  The titles and abstracts for the first six episodes are:


Ama Adams, Marc Donner, Charles Palmer, and Roland Trope