Podcast Hosts

This project grew from a panel session on AI and IP sponsored by the New York City Bar Association in the late spring of 2020. The panel session was organized by Roland Trope and included, among a larger group of panelists, the three other hosts of this podcast. We had so much fun working on the panel and we realized that there were so many interesting directions that we might take this work, that we decided to develop a podcast along the same lines. This website contains supporting and background material for the podcast project.

The views expressed here and in the podcast episodes are solely those of the hosts and guests individually and not of any of their employers or institutions.

Ama Adams

Personal Name: Ama

Family Name: Adams

Where I grew up: Lusaka, Zambia

Where I live now: Alexandria, Virginia


[1] Partner / Ropes & Gray / International Trade and National Security


[1] JD / Law / University of Virginia

[2] BA / History and French / Wesleyan University

Marc Donner

Personal Name: Marc

Family Name: Donner

Where I grew up: New York, New York

Where I live now: New York, New York


[1] Engineering Director / Uber

[2] Managing Director and Head of Infrastructure / MSCI

[3] Engineering Director / Google

[4] Director / Morgan Stanley

[5] Executive Director / UBS

[6] Vice President / Morgan Stanley

[7] Research Staff Member / IBM

[8] Research Engineer / NASA - JPL


[1] PhD / Computer Science / CMU

[2] MS / Computer Science / CMU

[3] MS / EE / Caltech

[4] BS / EE / Caltech

Charles Palmer

Personal Name: Charles

Family Name: Palmer

Where I grew up: Leesville, Louisiana

Where I live now: Hanover, New Hampshire


[1] Distinguished Research Staff Member / IBM

[2] Adjunct Professor of Computer Science / Dartmouth College

[3] Staff Programmer / Amoco


[1] PhD / Computer Science / NY Polytechnic

[2] MS / Computer Science / Tulane University

[3] BS / Computer Science / Oklahoma State University

Roland Trope

Personal Name: Roland

Family Name: Trope

Where I grew up: Los Angeles, California

Where I live now: New York, New York


[1] Partner / Trope and Schramm LLP / National Security, International Trade, and Intellectual Property in Federal Contracts

[2] Adjunct Professor / Electrical Engineering and Computer Science / United States Military Academy (at West Point)


[1] JD / Yale Law School

[2] MA / English Language and Literature / University of Oxford

[3] BA / English Language and Literature / University of Oxford